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Hans L
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Topic: NMIndexingService (Nero 7) not shownPosted: 09 February 2008 at 2:23pm |
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In Win XP Home TaskManager, Processes, NMIndexingService.exe (System) and NMIndexStoreSvc.exe (Owner) are listed on my computer. In Autoruns, there are no mention of these files (Image names). How come? Are there other items in Task Manager that are not mentioned in Autoruns?
Now, I must admit that I had to check everything manually, since Find seemed to have a life of its own, and you cannot sort on headings. Thanks in advance. Hans L |
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Karlchen
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Posted: 09 February 2008 at 4:18pm |
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Hello, Hans L.
In case the services are really services, they will be locatable on the Autoruns "Services" tab as well as on the "Everything" tab. Just keep in mind that the process name listed inside Task Manager need not be the same name as the service name.
If you are not sure whether the name you are looking for will be inside the services list, then you might switch to the "Everything" tab beforehand and the use Ctrl-F.
This limitation, however, does not prevent you from finding whatever you wish as long as it is in the list. Conclusion You will be able to locate the NMIndexingService.exe and the and NMIndexStoreSvc.exe by going to the "Everything" tab, pressing Ctrl-F and entering "NMIndexingService.exe" and "NMIndexStoreSvc.exe" as search strings. If they are really services, you will be able to achieve the same by using Ctrl-F inside the "Services" tab. HTH, Karl |
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Hans L
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Posted: 09 February 2008 at 7:24pm |
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Hello Karl:
Well, I understand that the service names might differ, but wouldn't the .exe file names be the same? There is no NMIndexingService.exe or NMIndexStoreSvc.exe in my Autoruns. However, if I uncheck all nine Nero items in Everything and restart the computer, the Windwos TaskManager does not contain these two items. Which means that they are called something else or lumped into another file (perhaps a dll?) in Autoruns!?.
If my Find worked as it should, I agree that the heading sorting is not strictly necessay. However, my Find finds the first instance, and then, when I open the Find window again and click on Find Next, nothing happens even when there are other instances of the Find word. Is there any other way to invoke "Find Next" that I could try? As for the registry location being lost. Nah, they would just have to be repeated as many times as needed (above each or each group of items in the list). Regards, Hans L |
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Posted: 10 February 2008 at 7:22am |
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Hello, Hans.
+ Launch Autoruns + Make sure that only these options are ticked: Verify Image Signatures, Hide Signed Microsoft Entries + Press F5 to refresh the list + Once Autoruns states "Ready", save the list to "Autoruns.txt" + Post the list here, please.
Of couse, Autoruns will only be able to show the executable files which will be launched automatically themselves, the parent generation. Autoruns is not Dependency Walker. Therefore, Autoruns has got no idea which child processes an automatically started programme will launch. Anyway, please, post your Autoruns log. About the Find dialogue: Inside Autoruns press Ctrl-F and enter a search string. Once the first instance has been found, press F3 in order to jump to the next instance (in case there is one) and Shift-F3 to jump to the previous entry. - No problem here. About column sorting: No use discussing this with me, because Mark & Bryce are the programme authors. Mark explained why he did not like the idea a long time ago. No new arguments to make him change his mind have ever been brought up, just the request for column sorting will be repeated once in a while. No idea, if it will be implemented or not. Regards, Karl Edited by Karlchen - 10 February 2008 at 7:23am |
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Posted: 10 February 2008 at 8:58am |
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Hello, Hans.
Let me add a hopefully useful piece of information on which Windows services Autoruns will list. I have just checked on my current system: + Vista Home Premium + Autoruns v9.12 + Nero 8 Example "Nero NMIndexing Service": The service Nero NMIndexing Service has been set to start "manually" (on demand) only. I.e. Windows itself will not launch it automatically on startup. Autoruns will not list Nero NMIndexing Service on the "Services" tab (or on the "Everything" tab). This does not prevent another process from demanding that Nero NMIndexing Service be started nevertheless. In this case NMIndexing Service would be the child of the launching process, but not an automatically started service. Autoruns will not list it. Autoruns may, however, list the parent process, provided the parent process has been launched from one of the existing autoruns locations. Another example: The service "AppInfo" has got the start mode "manual". So Windows will not launch it automatically. Autoruns will not list it on the "Services" tab and not on the "Everything" tab. But here on this machine "AppInfo" is running. So some other process/service must have launched it manually. Conclusion: Autoruns will only list services which will be launched automatically. Services which will be launched on demand only (start mode "manual") will not be listed by Autoruns. Therefore not every service will be listed by Autoruns, although you may be able to spot the correpsonding service process inside Task Manager or Process Explorer . Possible Different Approach: Perhaps it would correspond more to what users may expect to see if Autoruns listed all configured services and also indicated the start mode: automatic, manual, disabled. Implementing this may not be as trivial as it seems, because so far Autoruns only knows two states for each autoruns item: enabled and disabled. Implementing the ability to differentiate between at least 3 states just for the services might break the general on/off approach of Autoruns. So it might require rewriting major parts of the code. (I cannot tell, just an assumptions.) Kind regards, Karl |
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Hans L
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Posted: 10 February 2008 at 10:20am |
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Karl, very useful information, indeed. I will look at it more in detail later (esp. your next to the last post), although I assume that there is really no need for a log file from me now. However, I can already now say that my NMIndexingService is also set to manual (as could be expected).
I believe that the changes you suggest would be worthwhile in Autoruns (although it would then have to be called "Automanualruns" :-) Regards, Hans L |
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Posted: 10 February 2008 at 3:27pm |
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Hello, Hans.
One of the Nero autostart objects which you can see inside Autoruns will demand that the two Nero services which are not listed by Autoruns be launched. Regards, Karl |
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Hans L
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Posted: 10 February 2008 at 3:38pm |
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Karl, I understand. Ah, you learn every day here. I have, in Autoruns, inactivated all Nero services Etc., since I do not use Nero often, and do not need these things to start with the computer. In fact, when I start to really get into (to learn) A/V in a few months, I'll have to make a decision if it really makes sense for me to have Nero at all. Perhaps simpler, and more specialized apps would be better in my case.
Thank you very much for your help. Regards, Hans L (Sweden -> 1981 -> USA) |
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