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    Posted: 29 October 2007 at 8:27pm
You're right!  How embarassing... That'll teach me not to search and/or try it out for myself.  Figures I'd look like a lazy bum on a board with class.  Thanks molotov!

Looking forward to my Windows reformat when the new videocard gets here this week.  Holding off running PE in earnest until then.  Will keep it as a prize for having a clean Windows install with a nice new videocard.  If everything goes right, that is.
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Hi Betras,
 
You might search these forums for SecuROM to find previous discussions about this very issue.  Wink  You may find them to be helpful, or at least interesting. Wink
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Originally posted by Karlchen

They decide you must not find out what they are doing. (Whose machine is it after all, theirs or yours?!)

It seems to be theirs in any session I choose to play a SecuROM-protected game, which is practically every one Ouch  Once BioShock hit, I just quit fighting it.  I was putting off playing new games because I didn't want to reboot just to launch the thing, but it just got easier to stop running PE altogether.

Don't suppose there's any change in 11.03?  I'd like to go back to running PE full time, instead of just prior to a reboot and scanning the process list.  It feels like driving at night without headlights on, then turning them on for a few minutes to navigate into the garage.

And people said Starforce was bad...
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Hi, Aztek.
why not just add a simple way to rename the driver :
This may not help for a long time, because the SecuROM folks will find out. This may quickly end in a cat-and-mouse game, I am afraid.

Moreover, it is not ProcessExplorer which does something illegal. It is SecuROM which likes to play its game in the dark. They decide you must not find out what they are doing. (Whose machine is it after all, theirs or yours?!)

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Their answer to the closed process explorer

Dear Customer.

Thank you for your reply. The driver can be used by every application, not only Process Explorer. It is not possible to determine if there is any program using the driver.
Therefore we do not allow this potential "dangerous" driver. Please reboot your computer to play the game.

Thank you for your understanding.

Best regards,

SecuROM Support Team
SecuROM on the web: http://www.securom.com
or via e-mail: support@securom.com


why not just add a simple way to rename the driver :D


Edited by Aztek - 25 September 2007 at 5:56am
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SecuROM's corporate advertising blurb-'GET MORE CONTROL'. 

Tells you all you need to know really.
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Piracy won't even let you bypass SecuROM on this particular issue.  (Disclaimer:  I am not promoting it or condoning it)

There is a recently released crack for Bioshock that has hit the torrent networks, and I ran across one user that has having this problem with the Bioshock crack.  It wasn't until the user pasted this link that I knew that this problem could occur with PC games:

http://www.securom.com/message.asp?m=module&c=5024

In some wicked kind of irony, the crack lets you bypass activation, SecuROM installation, and the use of a valid software key.  However, it does not prevent you from dealing with this kind of issue.  Protecting your software and IP is one thing, but doing so in such a zealous manner that it will refuse to run with system/admin software installed on your system is just plain wrong.
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God, why is this even happening...

I think most of this has also started happening since the newly released game Bioshock came implemented with its SecuROM DRM features.  I think I will hold off buying it now; I do not want any DRM crap on my computer. And limiting installs to 5 computers or whatever? Or even having the cheek to even think about limiting it to X computers? I'm sorry, but I bought the damn thing, and I can install it whereever I want, how many times I want.

They're making people resort to piracy [by bypassing and removing it] to play their own damn game.  That is, regardless of the fact they might only install it on one computer in their lifetime. I certainly dont want DRM limiting any number of installs or it even installed on my computer.

And if will prevent me from running Process Explorer? All the more reason to turn to some program that gets rid of it.  If I want it running, I want it running!

Steam, the game distribution platform, allows you to buy Bioshock and tie it in to your account.  It has its own DRM feature; you need to log in to play a game, or have the account info saved to your computer so you can play it offline.  Trouble is...this also comes implemented with the DRM "version".  Arrrggghhh!!

Get rid of this useless, and franky annoying DRM stuff Sony.  I want to meet the guy who programmed it...t**t!


Edited by noks - 27 August 2007 at 4:04am
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Isn't it obvious? they don't want the tech press (and litigators) to be on their ass for including a sony rootkit with a game and have evidence for it.
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Most funny in this situation is that such kind of "defense" by banning several tools in order to keep behavior of "defense" in a secret - just pain for usual users of these tools. Peoples who interested in SecuRom "behavior" will trace it though in the end.
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