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typhoon43
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Topic: Newsid on x64 creates VSS problemPosted: 15 April 2008 at 1:49pm |
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THE POST ABOVE IS FOR 32-BIT BOXES. SEE BELOW FOR 64-BIT
**WORKAROUND FOUND** This worked on our "NewSidded" 64-bit ESX boxes. Good luck! Be SURE to check the directory paths. That was our problem the whole time. We kept registering the system32 folder dlls. ********************************* 1. Stop the Microsoft Shadow Copy Provider & Volume Shadow Copy Service 2. Export the contents of the HKLM\Software\Microsoft\EventSystem key to a .reg file (as a backup). 3. Delete the HKLM\Software\Microsoft\EventSystem\{26c409cc-ae86-11d1-b616-00805fc79216}\Subscriptions key. (Just delete the Subscriptions subkey; leave the EventClasses key.) 4. Restart the server. 5. Run the "VSSADMIN LIST WRITERS" command. This causes the VSS entries in the HKLM\Software\Microsoft\EventSystem\{26c409cc-ae86-11d1-b616-00805fc79216}\Subscriptions key to be rebuilt when the writers initialize. If that does not resolve it try this: Check the Registry - HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{FAF53CC4-BD73-4E36-83F1-2B23F46E513E}\InProcServer32 - check right pane for (Default) - ensure this is pointing to the correct location à %systemroot%\system32\ES.DLL Try launching each of these consoles: - perfmon /wmi - msinfo32 - wmimgmt.msc If the above works out without any issues, please run these commands on the server: Net stop vss Net stop swprv regsvr32.exe /i %windir%\system32\eventcls.dll regsvr32.exe /i %windir%\system32\swprv.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\system32\vssui.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\SysWOW64\vss_ps.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\SysWOW64\msxml.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\SysWOW64\msxml2.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\SysWOW64\msxml3.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\SysWOW64\msxml4.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\SysWOW64\ole32.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\SysWOW64\oleaut32.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\SysWOW64\es.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\SysWOW64\comsvcs.dll vssvc /register net start swprv net start vss ********************************************** Edited by typhoon43 - 15 April 2008 at 1:51pm |
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Esa04
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Posted: 15 April 2008 at 1:29pm |
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Yes, the workaround:
1. Stop the Microsoft Shadow Copy Provider & Volume Shadow Copy Service
2. Export the contents of the HKLM\Software\Microsoft\EventSystem key to a .reg file (as a backup). This causes the VSS entries in the HKLM\Software\Microsoft\EventSystem\{26c409cc-ae86-11d1-b616-00805fc79216}\Subscriptions key to be rebuilt when the writers initialize.
If that does not resolve it try this:
Check the Registry - HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{FAF53CC4-BD73-4E36-83F1-2B23F46E513E}\InProcServer32
Try launching each of these consoles:
- perfmon /wmi
If the above works out without any issues, please run these commands on the server:
Net stop vss Net stop swprv regsvr32.exe /i %windir%\system32\eventcls.dll regsvr32.exe /i %windir%\system32\swprv.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\system32\vssui.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\system32\vss_ps.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\system32\msxml.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\system32\msxml2.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\system32\msxml3.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\system32\msxml4.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\system32\ole32.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\system32\oleaut32.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\system32\es.dll regsvr32.exe %windir%\system32\comsvcs.dll vssvc /register net start swprv net start vss there is a microsoft article about this too ! and never use newsid again on x64... use sysprep for example |
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typhoon43
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Posted: 15 April 2008 at 12:53pm |
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We are having the same problem on our ESX Cluster. Only affecting the 64-bit images. Has ANYONE found a fix for this yet?
We most defintiely ran NewSID on the machines.
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molotov
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Posted: 05 March 2008 at 3:15am |
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Have not used Newsid. But I wonder if the presence of [HKCU\Software\Sysinternals\NewSID\EulaAccepted] might be an indication that someone has at least attempted to run Newsid on a system?
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Esa04
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Posted: 04 March 2008 at 11:04pm |
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As far as i know there is none on 32 machines. Also not stated by the creators of newsid.
On x64 machines the VSS problems can indicate that newsid has been used !
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dclanes
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Posted: 04 March 2008 at 5:19pm |
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Hello,
Is there anyway to verify whether or not "newsid" was run on a machine.
Thanks!
DCL
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Karlchen
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Posted: 01 March 2008 at 3:02am |
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Hi, Esa04.
I assume the technical problem is solely caused by the conflict 32bit programme vs 64bit Windows. The fact that Microsoft has never supported NewSID, not even on the platforms which Sysinternals created it for, is a different issue and not strictly a techical isue. Karl Edited by Karlchen - 01 March 2008 at 3:03am |
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Esa04
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Posted: 29 February 2008 at 11:43pm |
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Karl,
Thx for the response and touche !
I agree with you on this although i always got the impression newsid was commonly used to replace sysprep around the world to ease the use of cloning. I realised that is not supported by Microsoft when i troubleshooted this problem.
The problem with sysprep is that it's more work to install,every OS and even SP needs a different version, maybe that is the reason why sysprep is supported and newsid is not.
I am going to take action to prehibit the use of newsid for all cloning purposes.
Do you, or anyone else, know if there are any other issues known with newsid (x86 or x64) that could cause problems in the future for my current cloned machines.
EJ
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Karlchen
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Posted: 29 February 2008 at 4:42pm |
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Hi, Esa04.
Well, I am not that amazed. Reasons: The NewSID webpage states:
It also states
So in our company it never occurred to us to try out if NewSID worked on Win2003 64bit. Karl Edited by Karlchen - 01 March 2008 at 3:00am |
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Esa04
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Posted: 29 February 2008 at 4:52am |
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i find it odd that noone has experience with this issue !
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